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    Default URGENT HELP:- Shed Problem

    Ok this is the 1st time i have had any problems like this that have gone on for as long as they have..

    My newest Red Tail Boa cannot get all its shed of regardless of what he does or i do i have tried everything possible to aid him in the shed but nothing is working...

    Can anyone suggest anything that i aint done?

    Things i have done.
    1. Luke Warm bath fr 20 mins
    2. Water ointment treatment
    3. Skin ointment
    4. raising humidity slightly

    If you can add to these i would appreciate it as he is long past shed date and his skin is all dried out and cracking but it will just not come of.

    Vets have said i have done everythin i can.

    Thanks
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    I've heard that soaking a pillow case in warm water, placing the snake inside and then putting it back in viv sometimes works.

    Never tried it myself, warm soak usually does the trick for me, but have heard of the pillowcase trick, so maybe worth a try?

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    I would try the pillow case . Its worked for me with with 1 of my cheynei . you might try placing the snake in a plastic rub with scrunched up paper spray the paper with water and place the snake inside
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    cheers will give all ago tomorrow as his viv is bein turned off in a moment
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    Good luck mate. Keep us posted
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    my corn is also in shed, and is shedding parts at a time, it kind of looks like a sunburned human peeling lol,
    is this normal ?
    if not should i stick him in a lukewarm bath ?
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    when we had a corn stuck is 2-3 sheds (was givin to us like that) what the vet said was to get a old towel, and wet it and rinse it out, then fold the towel in half and in half again, any put a rub, and place on a heat mat, 30-60 mins at a time, and after a few days u should see an inprovement, (as the snake moves thro the towel the rubbing action and the steam should help)

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    my mate got a boa who had about 2 previous bad sheds, we bathed it in warm water for a while till the skin soaked up the moisture, then placed it with warm soaked kitchen roll, it did work, but you cant leave them in their for long.

    it does work

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    Hiya, just saw the post and thought I might add something further.

    Ok, there are a couple of points to note.

    1) How are you keeping your boa? Are there humid as well as dry areas in the viv? What sort of substrate are you keeping it on, and what is your pre-shed routine for the snake? What temps are you keeping? However, judging by your post, I don't think this is going to be the problem :(
    2) Take care with wet pillow cases etc. If you doubt this, then put your head in a dry pillow case, then put your head in a wet one....... take care with the second option as it may cause suffocation!
    3) I don't want to cause panic or worry but, very poor shedding as has been described in the first post can be a symptom of illness. This can be anything from vitamin deficiency to a systemic bacterial infection. It could be worth while to getting some faecal tests or bloods done if this is a possibility. I have seen this before and this is not any kind of judgement on your or anyone's husbandry, but I had the backup of an entire vet dept. and was able to get as many tests done as and when I wanted them, and these sorts of syptoms were more serious than just low humidity 9 times out of 10. This is backed up by the fact that this snake is new to the collection and may have been carrying an infection on arrival.
    If this unshed skin has been on for a while then another shed cycle can be forced with vet treatment using Parenteral vitamin A @ 1 000 to 5000iu will induce ecdysis.

    How long has this snake been in your collection, how old is it, and is it being kept with any other animals?

    For most people poor sheds are simply low humidity issues prior to shedding, and the treatments listed above are perfectly good for sorting them out, however just to be on the safe side.....

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    my corn had a bad shed but i stuck some damp sphagnum moss into her warm hide n within an hour the rest had come off try that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drymarchon View Post
    Hiya, just saw the post and thought I might add something further.

    Ok, there are a couple of points to note.

    1) How are you keeping your boa? Are there humid as well as dry areas in the viv? What sort of substrate are you keeping it on, and what is your pre-shed routine for the snake? What temps are you keeping? However, judging by your post, I don't think this is going to be the problem :(
    2) Take care with wet pillow cases etc. If you doubt this, then put your head in a dry pillow case, then put your head in a wet one....... take care with the second option as it may cause suffocation!
    3) I don't want to cause panic or worry but, very poor shedding as has been described in the first post can be a symptom of illness. This can be anything from vitamin deficiency to a systemic bacterial infection. It could be worth while to getting some faecal tests or bloods done if this is a possibility. I have seen this before and this is not any kind of judgement on your or anyone's husbandry, but I had the backup of an entire vet dept. and was able to get as many tests done as and when I wanted them, and these sorts of syptoms were more serious than just low humidity 9 times out of 10. This is backed up by the fact that this snake is new to the collection and may have been carrying an infection on arrival.
    If this unshed skin has been on for a while then another shed cycle can be forced with vet treatment using Parenteral vitamin A @ 1 000 to 5000iu will induce ecdysis.

    How long has this snake been in your collection, how old is it, and is it being kept with any other animals?

    For most people poor sheds are simply low humidity issues prior to shedding, and the treatments listed above are perfectly good for sorting them out, however just to be on the safe side.....

    Cheers
    Al

    This is the only rep in the house now and i have had it for a good few months....

    All reps that come into mine and my fathers collection are vet checked externally and internally and this one was cleared with 100% health.

    The viv does have a well balanced humidity and the temps are at recommended highs and lows for the time of day in which it is at the time ( auto temp control units it temp drops outside viv raises to compensate and vice versa )

    I dont and didnt doubt my husbandy skills as i have kept and bred reps from bein knee high with my dad.

    i have how ever come across a 1st on my behalf on a troubled shed... It started to shed its skin on the 8th November 2008 so just under 2 weeks ago. It is coming of very slowly but still not to a satisfactory rate for a troubled shed.

    It is kept on bark chippings that hold the moisture to keep the humidity as it should be and it gets sprayed if and when needed... I am hoping this is a 1st and last time for this snake... As i dont consider a snake settled into a new enviroment for at least 6mths after moving so its still settling in here.

    He's about 3-4ft and in a 4x2x2 viv so that isnt an issue i have taken out all new addatives i have added and it now has a bare viv of substrate water and hide ( cat litter tray and home made hide )

    I wont be putting it into any pillow case wet or dry as this will most certainly cause death or respiratory problems. I will how ever be puttin it into a nice sized rub with warm water and a towel for an hour to see if that works.. if not i will try the vitamin supplements to force another shed.

    I thank you all for your comments they have all been taken on board and i shall keep you updated on his progress
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    No worries,
    as I said, I didn't think it was anything to do with your husbandry at all, but its always nice to get a bit of background in these sorts of situations especially from people with heaps of experience as it can often include information that can help everyone out.
    It is certainly an odd one and in 6 years with over 100 snakes of varying species I saw this kind of thing only a few times, and there were later found to be more serious underlying issues in a couple of them.
    Thanks for the reply, will look forward to hearing more.
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    small update...

    I was suggested to try puttin his water bowl under heat lamp in so i did that today and he has spent ALL day in there and his shed has come loose and coming of so i will give it a day or so longer to see if it comes off completely if not i will do as suggested here :))
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    Hi

    Are you using ceramics to heat the viv, if so i would take it out and replace with a heat mat, could be that the ceramic is drying the air forcing humidity down. Can think of anything else that you haven't already tried
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulcoyle View Post
    Hi

    Are you using ceramics to heat the viv, if so i would take it out and replace with a heat mat, could be that the ceramic is drying the air forcing humidity down. Can think of anything else that you haven't already tried
    No mate i never use ceramics due to there instability and ability to explode
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    No probs, read heat lamp and assumed. Sorry. Good luck with getting the rest of the shed removed
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    ok i managed to get most of with a towel and i raised humidity and forced it into another shed and all is fine now
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